Firms reject candidates on the basis of their accents, research suggests

Job interview – TH
Tuesday 21 December 2010 by James Dean

Top London law firms are hiring graduates with ‘smart’ accents and public school backgrounds because they think they are better for their image than working-class candidates, new research has suggested.

Suitable white working-class applicants are being passed over for jobs in favour of middle-class graduates of all ethnicities from elite universities, according to a study of 130 staff at five prominent London firms by City University’s Centre for Professional Service Firms at Cass Business School.

The five firms all had diversity policies, and had successfully recruited ethnic minority candidates, but rejected able working-class students because their appearance or accent was not thought ‘smart’ enough, the research found.

Dr Louise Ashley, leading the study, said that the firms want to preserve their ‘upmarket brand’.

She said: ‘Focusing on ethnicity enables law firms to boast excellence, or at the very least improve diversity outcomes, despite the fact that they have continued to recruit using precisely the same types of class privilege that have always been in operation.’

Ashley said that one partner told her: ‘There was one guy who came to interviews who was a real Essex barrow boy, and he had a very good CV, he was a clever chap, but we just felt that there’s no way we could employ him. I just thought: putting him in front of a client – you just couldn’t do it. I do know though that if you’re really pursuing a diversity policy you shouldn’t see him as rough round the edges, I should just see him as different.’

Ashley reported that another firm changed its strategy to hire almost exclusively from Oxbridge. A partner in the firm told her: ‘We’re just a much smarter firm now.’

A senior associate in another firm told Ashley: ‘Image is everything in the law – it’s all we’ve got, our product. What’s the point of bringing these people along… to bring your diversity figures up? You’re only going to end up firing them.’

Ashley said that although the firms are publicly committed to diversity in the workplace, almost all of their lawyers came from more privileged backgrounds. At two of the firms, more than 70% of lawyers were privately educated, while more than 90% of lawyers surveyed had fathers who had been managers or senior officials.

Ashley said: ‘Until relatively recently, law firms have tended to focus on ethnicity rather than social inclusion in their recruitment, and they have made some progress in this respect. The strong consensus in this and other research was that middle-class ethnic minority candidates with the right education – and the right accent – would not necessarily experience discrimination, at entry level at least.

‘As it is, on either a personal or collective basis, individuals within the profession have little incentive to introduce a more progressive approach which would genuinely recognise and reward difference on the basis of social class, since the inclusion of lawyers who are visibly working class, or have regional accents, is perceived to threaten both their brand and their bottom line.

‘By not taking well-qualified people with working-class accents and by overlooking candidates with good degrees from new universities, law firms are arguably missing out on the skills and experience different people can bring.

‘They are contributing to the situation outlined in the Milburn Report to government last year which said that the professions have exemplified the old notion that a limited pool of talent was enough to get by on. This is recognised as a problem by some progressive firms, particularly those outside the legal sector, with some acknowledging that their most successful leaders include individuals who would not have gained access to the profession today on the basis of their academic qualifications.

‘A genuine commitment to diversity and inclusion as both a commercial and ethical imperative would mean that many more law firms go much further in opening their doors to a wider pool of talent.’

Ashley’s findings are published tomorrow in the Work, Employment and Society journal.

Comments

Obviously Working Class

Wor Jackie tells us like that it divvent matta what ah soont like salongaslike I'm makin dosh, ye kna!

Wheere ther’s muck, ther’s brass...

Ee, by gum...

Ey up cock...

Sit thissen dahn an' tell me abaht it...

See all, 'ear all, say nowt. Eat all, sup all,
pay nowt. An' if th'ivver does owt for
nowt, allus do it for thissen...

Tha’ can allus tell a Yorkshireman,
but tha’ can’t tell ‘im much...

Well, Ah'll go to t’foot of ahr stairs...

It’s neither nowt nor summat...

Put t'wood in t‘oil...

'Ey up, an' ah'll tell thi that fer nowt... stick it where da sun don't shine!

Ignorant

What ignorant posts!

These companies are making a

These companies are making a big mistake. They need to realize just how damaging it is to put a smart-looking kid with no brains or expertise whatsoever in front of a client, instead of a middle-class graduate who knows what he/she is talking about.

Ridiculous!

Surely all of the above are completely irrelevant, it should simply be that the job is given to the best candidate regardless of background, race etc...I thought that as a country we had moved beyond such stupidity, what a shame!

Coward!

Brave and properly trained lawyers challenge injustice boldly while cowardly and opportunistic lawyers like you would prefer to shy away...
Brave lawyers like me know when they are right and are not afraid to stand up against what is wrong while cowards and incompetent lawyers like you often have no clue whether or not they are right. They just accept that anything.
Brave and confident lawyers are not afraid of being blacklisted and or ganged up against by Judges while cowards like you would chicken away to save their skin.

If you were man or woman enough, you would have both disclosed your identity and or proved that any of my assertions are false!
Your type is a disgrace not only to the profession but also to the human race!!

Coward?

Later on this page you complain about other posts being pulled. I didn't see those posts but if they were similar to this one I'm not surprised they were pulled. You don't win arguments by being gratuitously unpleasant. You have posted a few times and you know that 'anonymous' is offered when one is posting. Some people just can't be bothered to change it. They're not cowards.

It is worth remembering for your career in the law that a good lawyer should be able to win an argument without descending to personal insults.

Bear/Woods/Pope/Catholic

This research only shows what we already know. Next thing there will be some research suggesting that appearance plays some part in the recruitment process,

Yes but if what we know is

Yes but if what we know is evidenced people are forced to answer the evidence and can't rely on prejudicial rhetoric.

I don't see why race

I don't see why race discrimination should be any more unacceptable than discrimination on any other irrelevant ground? One interesting question: Is a person more effective with characteristics in common with the service consumer? For example an advocate to a judge or a solicitor to a client?

I don't see why race

I don't see why race discrimination should be any more unacceptable than discrimination on any other irrelevant ground? One interesting question: Is a person more effective with characteristics in common with the service consumer? For example an advocate to a judge or a solicitor to a client?

I am wondering now what my

I am wondering now what my chances are of getting to a City firm given that I am an overseas student at a new university, I have a foreign accent and my English is generally not quite perfect (assume that otherwise I am a suitable candidate). Close to zero?

The Truth

It does not matter what race or class you belong to, Your chances of getting into a City of London firm are virtually zero and your chances of getting a training contract are not good. You need to get some work experience under your belt. Work experience in a firm which offers training contracts.

The chances are zero for the

The chances are zero for the reasons already mentioned but mainly because it no longer makes economic sense for law firms to train more solicitors.

Work is increasingly being done by paralegals and this trend will continue because they are cheap and computers are facilitating this.

Clients are demanding value for money and this can't be delivered by hiring new solicitors.

It's a matter of economics.

If you want ot earn a good salaray then do a job that can't be commoditised.

Work Experience! Not if You Are a Prince Harry's Girlfriend?

Lest we forget, work experience requirement plainly does not apply to everyone. Apart from those who may have achieved exceptional academic excellence, it clearly does not appear that you need any work experience at all to get the best legal job offers in the city if you are a very pretty girl or famous or very well connected.
I do think I remember that in England where the legal job market is supposed to be the most competitive that are Prince Harry's girlfriend or any beautiful or rich and famous girl could party her way through an LLB degree and still land a Training contract even before she graduates.
“Get some work experience under your belt” is the usual explanation/advice given to fool the general public about the real situation. Of course it works very well by disguising the true fact of the dominant role of wickedness and discrimination in frustrating the career dreams of most hardworking, but unprivileged individuals ( and or those from the wrong ethnic groups) in the UK.

Chelsey Davey undertook work

Chelsey Davey undertook work experience at Farrer & Co. before getting her training contract, so you are clearly wrong about her.

The truth is that you are in the wrong profession not because of the colour of your skin or your class but because of the rules of supply and demand. Too many solicitors and too few places. It is as simple as that and it will get worse after October 2011 when ABSs come in. .

You may also claim that she

You may also claim that she was the best among the best applicants for that work expereince or that any other partying law graduate would have had it so easy.
You must be fooling yourself!

Fooling yourself

No, you are fooling yourself by your attitude. You will never be King of England and neither will I. Get over it and do something which will make you happy.

Merit and Not Class!

Just because one will never be King of England, you believe he must not ask questions!
Well, I have great respect for rulers of England, but have no headache at all about who becomes the King of England not only because the King or Queen of England's jurisdiction does not extend to Iseke or Ali-Izhi or Igbo where I come from, but simply because it cannot matter to a non-English.
Perhaps, I should add for your information that my father was the King of Iseke land ( not as big or influencial as England, but better than nothing )so I 'm probably better than you in terms of claim to royalty.
Class does not matter in Igbo land where I come from and should not matter in today's Britain.
What should matter is merit. That is what real equality should be!!

Mr. Terry-Thomas, the late

Mr. Terry-Thomas, the late great actor but a former clerk from Finchley, provided one template for my speaking technique in Court. Rather a defensive act I must accept, but I saw it as regrettably necessary. ( I emphasise, it should not be necessary).

Professional elite

I thought this article was interesting and entirely unsurprising but was fascinated by the response it provoked. I always thought that, until probably the early 80s, legal professionals were drawn from the privileged section of society and that the profession democratised as it was commoditised. Less privileged candidates were accepted as the profession became less attractive. In hard times when the profession looks appealing compared to the alternatives it is to be expected that those who still dominate will recruit in their own likeness. The profession inevitably reflects the society in which it functions.

A chav is not good for

A chav is not good for business - surely they are - shocker

Yet when teenagers have tv and radio role ' you know what I mean guv' models nowadays who have only a BTEC between them, they are hardly to blame. We are miles away from the quality John Noakes and John Craven days.

The broadcasting media must take a large slice of blame for the standards of elocution in this country

Well, ah'll go to t' foot of our stairs!

I can't believe anyone is really surprised by the findings of this research. I suppose I ought to be thankful that I practice in a part of the world where ability, experience, and quality of advice/service (by and large) count more than

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2. 'ow tha talks. *

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