Ombudsman predicts more cases as compensation limit rises
The Legal Ombudsman is expecting to increase the number of investigations it carries out under new powers coming in to force today.
The new rules lift the ceiling on compensation awards from £30,000 to £50,000 and allow the ombudsman to accept complaints from prospective as well as real clients. The Law Society said that the extension in powers was unjustified.
In a statement, the ombudsman’s office said it does not expect the changes to increase the number of contacts it receives from the current figure of 75,000-80,000 each year. However the new rules will mean that the number eligible for investigations will rise by about 10%.
‘This will inevitably increase the number of full investigations that the organisation carries out,’ it said. Last year the ombudsman investigated 7,500 cases.
The changes coming in to effect from today:
- Raise the limit for compensation awards from £30,000 to £50,000.
- Extend time limits for accepting a complaint to six years from the date of act/omission and three years from the date the complainant should reasonably have known there were grounds for complaint.
- Allow the ombudsman to accept complaints from prospective customers ‘who could reasonably have expected to receive a service or who were unreasonably offered a service they did not want’.
Adam Sampson, chief legal ombudsman, said: ‘We consulted heavily with legal professionals, regulators and consumer groups before making these revisions.
‘I’m confident that they will stand us in good stead to develop further as an effective complaint-handling body while enabling us to divert many more cases away from expensive and often slow court action towards significantly faster and cheaper resolutions.’
Law Society president Lucy Scott-Moncrieff said: 'There’s no real evidence that extending the jurisdiction of the ombudsman to third parties and prospective clients will benefit clients or consumers. Solicitors owe duties to their clients, subject always to a duty to the courts, and enabling third parties to seek redress risks creating ambiguity in the role of the lawyer. There needs to be strong evidence to justify such a change – this hasn’t been provided.'
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Comments
Regulatory Suffocation
As a professional at the coalface, faced with a variety of different members of the public, some of whom are not very nice, some of whom cheat and steal, this further twisting of the regulatory screw represents, in effect, another attack on the profession, in the middle of a triple dip recession.
I was never "heavily consulted" about these ideas some of which frankly are ridiculous.
There is nothing so dangerous determined or unpredictable as a cornered lawyer!
For solicitors with significant personal assets on the line, this further shifting of the regulatory landscape will only serve to generate even more anger towards the Law Society in terms of its failure to look after its members, especially in the light of the cowardice of the government previously commented upon in the Gazette, by heavily regulating solictiors but being terrified in terms of regulating the media.
In the months and years to come this lamentable state of affairs may come back to haunt the President and the CEO.
Regulatory Suffocation - When can we breathe??
I completely and wholeheartly agree. The Law Society is NOT looking after its members in any way, shape or form, and this is another example of solicitors being left to fend for themselves in a profession where redundancies continue unabatted in an economy struggling to stand up straight.
When does the battering stop?
Why should solicitors suffer under treachourous hours and deadlines, for ever reducing rates, and now have the added liability of worrying whether advice given late at night might result in a call from the Ombudsman?
What would you expect to pay a handyman to come to your home on Sunday evening at 1.00am to fix your heating? The same rate as 9.00am on a Monday morning? I don't think so - yet as with so many in our the profession, we are required not only to work those hours to satisfy client demands, but to charge rock-bottom prices for doing so. Legal advice per hour is now cheaper than it costs to rent a clown - a children's entertainer! - for an hour. Did we ever think it would come to this? For a professional services society, the Law Society has a lot to answer for. When will it actually represent the wishes of its members and address these concerns - felt across the whole profession - and stand up for the rights of its solicitors?
In the absence of Law Society action, individual solicitors and law firms must come and stand together as a unified group to just say NO!. NO! to the cut-throat rates; NO! to the ridiculous turn-around times; NO! to the late nights and the early mornings; NO! to the calls, emails and texts on holiday, on sick bed, on wedding days and funerals, at 1.00am on a Sunday night or 6.00am on a Friday morning; NO! to the never-ending pressure to perform and beat the next lawyer, the next firm, the next boutique; NO! to the Law Society's turning a blind eye, and NO! to the constant client badgering to reduce, reduce, reduce a cost for significant professional services, for which most solicitors study 7+ years, work for minimun wages for 2-3 years, sacrifice quality family time and all to please a public who are just waiting to lodge that very next claim. Enough is enough and we need to just say NO!! Maybe then the tide can hope to change.....
Why not go for a no fault system?
It would have been much fairer to go for a scheme whereby complainants do not have to show any fault on the part of the solicitor. Claims Management Companies could be hired by the Ombudsman to find complainants. Clearly this must be the next step.
How many awards were over £25,000
I would imagien that the number of awards over £25k were as rare as breeding pairs of unicorns, if this premise is correct why do they need to raise the limit?
I would imagine that the Ombudsman hasn't the faintest idea of the difference between the contractual and the tortious calculation of what is a recoverable loss, and this is vital.
In effect the Ombudsman is shifting insured risk into potentially uninsured risk without the means of effectively raising arguments about the lack of causation etc, sadly in my experience arguing with the LeO is like complaining about the setting of the sun.
In terms of a six year limitation, I can see that this is a valid stance for matters where there has been a liquidated loss, but utterly vapid for some of the drivel that flows from complainants via the LeO.
Where was this "heavy consultation"?
No-one asked my view or any colleague at this or any other firm I am aware of?
The biggest problem with the Legal Ombudsman is time and expense. Most I have spoken to have a policy of avoiding the ombudsman like the plague and pacifying the usual unjustified complainants with anything up to £300.00 or so, because that's still better than the time and expense of the ombudsman.
Add prospective clients to the list of possible complainants and it becomes even more of a farce. We are talking about people who by definition has paid nothing to a solicitor and has never become a client seeking monetary compensation! For what I can only imagine!
Where is the Law Society in this? I haven't heard a word. Have you?
Yeah, we've all got a spare £50k lying about
So we're to be liable to prospective clients? So, a bloke came into my office the other day unannounced with no appointment and wanted to see me about "drawing up a letter for a contract for a mate he's lending money to". My receptionist said as a sole practitioner who doesn't really do commercial work, we probably couldn't help but as I was engaged with a client he was welcome to take a card and ring up and speak to me or make an appointment if I could help or maybe point him in the right direction if we couldn't. He asked when he should ring back and my assistant told him to try his luck and call later that day. To which he said , "well I've just come in an tried my luck and I can't see her so that's pointless. RIDICULOUS" and proceeded to slam the door and leave muddy foot prints on the carpet. Could he, as a prospective client make a complaint?
We choose who to retain as a client. Once retained, we are responsible for our client and we're bound by the code of conduct and owe a duty of care which if breached could amount to negligence for which I am insured. I can, If I think really hard accept that there is room for someone to complain about level of service (although as a consumer I have no such redress against dodgy butchers, builders and roofers - all of whom owe me a duty of care) but surely those complaints can't warrant penalties of £50,000 and if that's awarded against us how do we pay? If a client has a grievance worth that much, surely that's a matter for my insurers.
My opinion was never sought.
Will the law society not rest until they've finished us off completely. No referrals, fixed fee PI work, creation of CQS (which now means I might lose lender panel status when I was fine before but my law society which purports to support me and has charged me considerably more for this year heralds CQS as a success - success for who????) , don't get me started on legal aid .....what's left for us....??
Who do we complain to about financial loss?????????
What Society
Can anyone shed any light on the reasons for the Law Society's complete silence on anything remotely relevant to the professional well-being of its members?
Complete silence
The "complete silence" from the Society may be the result of the Gazette's policy of rushing to publish very short news articles. The Gazette is an arm of the Society, so there is no reason why it cannot get a comment from someone senior at the Society, which can then be included in a more comprehensive article.
It Gets Worse!
The SRA, having failed previously in its application to the Government to obtain powers to fine any firm of solictiors up to £250,000,000 is now having another go - this time with a tiered system of pain!!!
Ombudsman's Powers and the Rule of Law
The essence of the Rule of Law is that no one is above the law: government authority is only legitimately exercised in accordance with written, publicly diclosed laws, adopted and enforced by established procedures. The principle safegaurds against arbitrary government, and is hostile to both dictatorship and anarchy.
Now our profession is subject to arbitrary process that is not bound by the laws of contract or tort, and may be subject to orders of compensation where we might have a defence in law. Whether or not there is a finding against us, we shall be subject to a financial penalty by way of contribution towards the cost of investigation. For many High Street practitioners that cost will exceed any profit on the work undertaken.
The Legal Ombudsman is empire building, egged on by the Legal Service Board. Both appear to have a lack of understanding of the nature of the work and clients that some of our profession represent. Clients are often distressed when they consult our profession. Frequently they are disatisfied with the outcome; often with just cause. Whether that is a failure on the clients part, or that of their representative, or on the judiciary or legal system, will often become irrelevant.
I have real doubts that the Ombudsman's increased powers are constitutional and accord with the rule of law. I very much hope that the Law Society will financialy support a deserving challenge to the Ombudsman in order to allow members of our profession to be subject to the same legal rules as the rest of society.
Ombudsman v Law Society
OK - potential fine has increased to £50k; there was no "heavy consultation" with the legal profession (certainly not in our area) and thus the frustrations that we suffer are increasing like there is no tomorrow. It is negative, time-consuming and bad for earning a profit. But why moan at The Law Society? They lost the battle years ago. The MoJ and the SRA wield the power. They will override our views and The Law Society. If you accept that the Law Society is now a neutered body, then it helps. If I call them for help on issues to which I do not know the answer, they are usually superb.In my view they are there to help on an individual basis, but as a body have no actual power. "Stupe"
"Stupe"
David
I was fascinated by the last word of your post- "Stupe"
I see that this is defined as :
"a hot wet, often medicated cloth, applied externally (as to stimulate circulation)
from Latin "stuppa" coarse part of flax, tow, from Greek "stypp" "
Where did you intend this cloth to be applied?
No more free complaints
The new scheme effective 1.4.13 removes the 'two free complaints per annum' concession- so a firm will have to pay £400 for each chargeable complaint.
Law Society
It is totally clear and has been for years that The Law Society is almost definately NOT working for it's members, particularly it's small members, but rather for the opposition. Why do we continue to put up with it?
The answer is possibly for ALL small firms to renounce membership of the Law Society at the same time and continue to operate as 'Lawyers' wherever possible. There would be problems with lender panel membership (if any small firms are still actually on lenders panels) and possibly 'breaking the law' by undertaking legal work without being law society members, insurance etc. I think the chaos so caused would be very short lived, however, and maybe Mr Hudson would be forced to get off the fence and start earning his £400K pa salary for our benefit!!
Clould the SPG possibly make a stand and take an email poll on this and publish the result?
Enough is enough.
Ombudsman
I disapprove of many of the personal comments made about our President and Chief Executive. I believe that they are doing their best. The problem is that their brief is so wide. Unfortunately they have not been able to give us the support we need over the current challenges we fact.
I think that the things really have now gone too far from a regulatory point of view.
There are tree main issues:-
1) the ability of the Legal Ombudsman to make judgements on issues of negligence, without our having the ability to raise legal issues or appeal.
2) the new extraordinary notion that we could be penalised for not taking on a client.
3) the proposed completely disproportionate fining powers which the SRA are proposing.
These issues need to be tackled head on. Either the Law Society do it, or a group of us take up the gauntlet. We can pool resources and take our own legal advice on the constitutional aspects.
Many disapprove of your
Many disapprove of your disapproval.
If the President and Chief Exec can't stand the heat, then they should exit the kitchen. Position brings responsibilities-and criticism, both fair and unfair. If they can't take it-resign. However, there is no chance of that is there-and we all know why.
Article updated
I have updated the article with a comment from the president of the Law Society.
Michael Cross, news editor
Ombudsman
I see I managed to post my comments twice and with tpyos.It has been a long week! Apologies to all.
I am happy to combine with others to fight. The present regime offends against the principles of natural justice. We need to lobby the Law Society and government, use the courts, and consider some forms of direct action.
Extended powers--to what end?
It is clear that there was not extensive consultation.
There was never any suggestion as to need.
Lawyers would approach this from the perspective of a wrong which needed to be righted but there was no wrong here calling for attention
What was the mischief that called for new powers?
and Charges?
Was the LeO just short of work?
Is this just a revenue raising exercise?
It would be risible in any other trade or profession.
It will affect only firms which act for individuals and private clients--not those who act for corporate bodies which, if dissatisfied with a firm's response would simply go elsewhere.
We must not simply 'pay up' to avoid the hassle of ridiculous claims on compalints
We must not as now do most of the LeO work for them in providing documents and explaining systems, procedures, court delays, LSC malfunctions etc etc
We must charge for our time in sorting out their muddles and misconceptions
We must challenge the basis for LeO fees, the amount, the justification
Of course the Law Society should challenge the monopolistic powers abrogated to the LeO and insist that these new powers be put all this on hold until the legal basis has been investigated and thoroughly tested. the implications for firm's obligations to do risk assessments seems not to have been considered.
How much confidential information will be demanded of us? Each time?
We must query and resist any such calls
....and where were the new SRA 'supervisors' in all this?? did anyone hear from such a person that this was coming? and how to deal with it? No? I thought not.
Perhaps someone can advise me
Perhaps someone can advise me about action against a solicitor (former churchwarden) who professed to know about Land Registry rules and accepted instructions to correct our Deeds only to resign when the matter was referred to the Chancery Division of the High Court. He admits he made mistakes and will pay the Court Fees but last July changed his mind and withdrew his offer. The SRA are very sorry for us the LeO say we are out of time?!
Is there such a person as a genuine, honest solicitor in the UK?
Donoghue -v -Stevenson
It chokes me to agree with the Ombudsman but I think there might be some circumstances in which a non client can fairly be compensated. Inadequate limitation advice comes to mind.
Remember Lord Atkin in Donoghue -v- Stevenson;
'At present I content myself with pointing out that in English law there must be and is some general conception of relations, giving rise to a duty of care, of which the particular cases found in the books are but instances. The liability for negligence whether you style it such or treat it as in other systems as a species of "culpa," is no doubt based upon a general public sentiment of moral wrongdoing for which the offender must pay. But acts or omissions which any moral code would censure cannot in a practical world be treated so as to give a right to every person injured by them to demand relief. In this way rules of law arise which limit the range of complainants and the extent of their remedy. The rule that you are to love your neighbour becomes m law you must not injure your neighbour; and the lawyer's question "Who is my neighbour?" receives a restricted reply. You must take reasonable care to avoid acts or omissions which you can reasonably foresee would be likely to injure your neighbour. Who then in law is my neighbour? The answer seems to be persons who are so closely and directly affected by my act that I ought reasonably to have them in contemplation as being so affected when I am directing my mind to the acts or omissions which are called in question. This appears to me to be the doctrine of Heaven v. Pender as laid down by Lord Esher when it is limited by the notion of proximity introduced by Lord Esher himself and A. L. Smith L.J. in Le Lievre v. Gould , 1893,1 Q.B. 497. Lord Esher at p. 497 says :
"That case established that under certain circumstances one man may owe a duty to another even though there is no contract between them. If one man is near to another or is near to the property of another a duty lies upon him not to do that which may cause a personal injury to that other or may injure his property."
So A. L. Smith L.J.:
"The decision of Heaven v. Pender was founded upon the principle that a duty to take due care did arise when the person or property of one was in such proximity to the person or property of another that if due care was not taken damage might be done by the one to the other."
I think that this sufficiently states the truth if proximity be not confined to mere physical proximity; but be used, as I think it was intended, to extend to such close and direct relations that the act complained of directly affects a person whom the person alleged to be bound to take care would know would be directly affected by his careless act. That this is the sense in which nearness or "proximity" was intended by Lord Esher is obvious from his own illustration in Heaven v. Pender...'
Ombudsman's Powers
I write as a former IPS Adjudicator for the old LCS. I have been retired for exactly five years and I have several reactions to this news and more particularly to the comments on it.
First, I wonder if the Law Society now regrets letting self-regulation of complaints go? For all I am sure those commenting on the above news will disagree, there can be no doubt that we had developed an efficient complaints system in which the Adjudicators were all highly qualified solicitors with many years of experience in the profession. We therefore knew the problems faced by solicitors whilst understanding the frequently justified complaints raised by the clients. When the government decided to demolish all that work and transfer the powers to a non-legal body, the Law Society eventually supported them. That had to happen because the Law Society had not treated the whole business of complaints seriously and the government of the day had lost patience.
My second reaction is plus ça change. Sadly I see that many members of the profession still do not appear to have learned how to handle complaints and talk of "penalties" and "fines" when referring to compensation. Voldemorts (sic) troubled younger brother even seems to think the SRA has something to do with this. What hope is there for the profession? I am truly saddened to see that lawyers cannot understand the concept of compensation. The payments which I directed were to compensate the client for poor service, not to penalise the solicitor. Often I had a lot of sympathy for the lawyer, dealing with a difficult client, but the lawyer had just handled the whole thing so badly that the client was even more upset by the level of service and therefore more difficult to deal with.
When you get a complaint use it as a tool to improve your service to your clients. Examine how you could have handled the situation more effectively. Don't litigate with your clients when it isn't what is required; it will upset you as much as your client and attitudes on both sides will become entrenched so that there is no way out.
There were always cases where people felt they were in the position of clients but legally were not. For example most residuary beneficiaries were not clients but, where the solicitor was the sole executor, to whom could they turn for help where the estate was being handled badly? That was a situation which needed rectification and I understand that has been done. I would hope that the new powers do not go as far as A Nonn suggests.
I doubt you will find that the new compensation limit will mean that compensation awards will increase dramatically. I gather that the Ombudsman cannot direct a separate refund of solicitors' costs (as I could) and it has to be remembered therefore that some of the compensation will take that into account. The old LCS was working with the Insurers to pick up awards of compensation which reflected quantifiable loss. I wonder if that has continued under the new regime?
You didn't know how well off you were, did you?
SRA - context
May I correct you on one point?
The point being made was that on top of the misguided extension of fines being sought to meet an non-existent need, the SRA were adding to the regulatory overkill by seeking a second time the power to levy potentially ruinous fines!
My brother was not confused just troubled
Well, we certainly knew that
Well, we certainly knew that the LCS and everyone there were bullies of the first order!
So no, things haven't changed for the worse-just remained dreadful.
"I am truly saddened to see
"I am truly saddened to see that lawyers cannot understand the concept of compensation. The payments which I directed were to compensate the client for poor service, not to penalise the solicitor."
I hate comments like this. I remember a past colleague of mine getting a conditional practicing certificate (he had to do some specific CPD) with an accompanying letter from the SRA "This should not be seen as a punishment, it is simply to protect clients and the public" (or something of those lines).
It's complete nonsense. If you are ordering a solicitor to give money to a client for poor service the solicitor is being penalised.
It's like saying that someone convicted of assault should not see their fine as a punishment - it's simply a way of compensating the victim and contributing to the funds for victims generally.
Quite! The comment was, at
Quite!
The comment was, at best, self justification-and at worst,actually best not say!
Compensation and fines
I think a few people are failing to see the distinction between compensation and fines.
LeO make awards of compensation. These awards are made to compensate an individual for loss or some inconvenience and is paid directly to that individual. It is not supposed to be punitive.
A fine would be something the SRA, the regulator might issue and is designed to act as a punishment. As far as I know the SRA do not distribute the money from fines to complainants who may have caused them to act.
It is the same in the financial services industry. The FSA, as regulator might fine Barclays for mis-selling PPI. That money is kept by the FSA. The Financial Ombudsman might make a award of compensation to Joe Blogs who was mis-sold PPI. Ombudsman schemes were not set up to regulate, punish firms or issue fines.
Hope that helps.
I think a few people are
I think a few people are failing to see the distinction between compensation and fines.
I think "a few" people are failing to see that re-branding something doesn't change what it is...
Quite simple
It is very simple really. Regulators were set up to regulate the industry and fine where necessary. Ombudsman schemes were set up to investigate complaints and provide individual redress where appropriate. Two very distinct and separate roles.
Nothing new or re-branded. It has always been the case.
Gerry's post
I read the post above from Gerry Field.
Gerry - you say this.....
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I think that the things really have now gone too far from a regulatory point of view.
There are tree main issues:-
1) the ability of the Legal Ombudsman to make judgements on issues of negligence, without our having the ability to raise legal issues or appeal
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Just a few questions.
Who says you cannot raise legal issues if you choose to do so? Assuming that is right however, what type of legal points do you envisage would or should come into play when defending a LeO complaint about negligence against a solicitor? I would be interested in your answer.
As for appeals, my understanding is a case is looked at by a caseworker and then passed to an ombudsman if one party appeals the decision. What further right of appeal do you think you should have?
Comment from the President
I'm pleased to see that the Gazette belatedly included a quotation from the President. But her back-of-the-napkin words invite the obvious question: if there is no sufficient evidence to justify the extensions of the Ombudsman's powers, why hasn't the Society sought to challenge those extensions? The Society gives the impression of an organisation which is prepared to fight those with very limited resources (Kordowski) and make misconceived applications to intervene in litigation (Nationwide v Davisons), but not to take on those who will engage lawyers and fight back.
Courage
What is the difference between showing the courage to defend the best interests of a profession, committed to delivering services in a professional and ethical manner, and the reinforcement of the worst excesses of an anti-competitive cartel?
The difference is that if members of a profession are motivated and act in way which is conducive to serving the public good, they are entitled to take action to preserve the best features of a truly professional consensus to deliver the service described above.
The constant drip feed corrosion of our profession by consumerist fundamentalists without challenge, political or otherwise by the Law Society, is what gets under the skin of solicitors.
This state of affairs cannot and will not continue
LEO powers
As a legal aid lawyer undertaking family work I will not be able to take cases on after 1st April 2013, for example in financial issues, unless they qualify through the Domestic Violence gateway or pay privately. Would those prospective clients have redress if they thought my firm had refused to act for them? I am writing this while currently spending all of Saturday in the office and I will probably be working on Sunday as well as the pressure of the work and the administration of running a small legal aid high street practice is so overwhelming. If potential clients can complain to LeO at a cost of £400 per complaint, I may as well close the office down now. The cynic in me wonders if this is a way for the Government to encourage us to see clients for free once legal aid is removed.
Alternative to The Law Society
I have noted so many complaints about the ineptitude of the The Law Society in this and many other forums. If that is truly the case, what then is the entire profession still waiting for? why not form an alternative interest group through which you can fight issues and policies that threatens your profession-either by way of shop closures, boycotting the courts, taking legal actions etc.
And who knows such a group might be strong enough to challenge the Law society on the justifications for receiving dues or fees from lawyers instead of the new group!
Genesis
Its coming soon!
Kelly's Post
My point is that our courts have, over a period of hundreds of years ,devised a system for trying legal issues. It enables both parties to present their cases in an orderly manner, and for the action to be decided upon the facts, within the context of a corpus of settled law. In an action for negligence issues such as the extent and levels of duties of care would be decided in the light of statute and case law. If liability were established then the award of damages would be looked at in the light of causation, consequential loss and so forth.
Leo can now make decisions on what amount to allegations of negligence. So far as I can see he can do so without applying case law, and indeed without having to give anything amounting to a reasoned and argued judgement. This has the effect of making it difficult to challenge any decision. Morevover the award he makes is on the basis of a rather subjective assessment of the injury to the complainant.
Supposing for example a complainant said that his property had been flooded due to melting snow, and that his solicitor should have advised him better about the drainage of the surrounding land. Leo could quite easily decide that the solicitor did have liability in that case without basing his decision upon any precedent. You would have had no opportunity to argue the point of law before him, and no opportunity to appeal his decision.
The upshsot is that a functionary of the state is making decisions which may have a severe financial impact without having the necessity to base them upon the precedent of the common law.
Any appeal from the decision of the office of Leo, as I understand it, can only be by Judicial Review.
I am not a litigator, and stand to be corrected on the above. It seems to me however that we now have a situation where the state can effecitvely levy financial penalties on solicitors without due process. This seems to me to raise issues of human rights, and erodes the Rule of Law.
Ombudsman: New powers
Adam Sampson, chief legal ombudsman, said: ‘We consulted heavily with legal professionals, regulators and consumer groups before making these revisions. "
I was not consulted at the time, I know of no other solicitor that was consulted at the relevant time,. The Law Society & the SRA should be investigating whether Mr Sampson's statement is true. If it is found to be untrue then he should be dismissed!
I see no reason at all for
I see no reason at all for continuing the practice of mandatory payments by the legal profession to the Law Society.
They don't regulate any more - that's the SRA/Legal Ombudsman's role.
They are simply a trade union.
In this era of change and free market competition - and consumers not clients - why should we be forced into a closed shop? Our competitors aren't.
Let us join the Law Society or not (or join other unions) as we wish.
LeO - prospective customer complaints
What does this mean?
"Allow the ombudsman to accept complaints from prospective customers ‘who could reasonably have expected to receive a service or who were unreasonably offered a service they did not want’.
... are we not to offer services to (clients or) prosective clients? How is "unreasonbly offered" going to be interpreted? ... bet your bottom dollar if you don't offer a service you can be liable for that too !!
It's all very subjective
Someone of limited means could quite reasonably expect that there would be a low cost service available on the High Street to deal with a divorce. If all the local firms tell him that Legal Aid is not available, and he'll have to pay privately, then does he have grounds for a complaint if he feels that the charges are too high?
In Denial
So what, exactly, should a solicitor do when poor service is given. Send a strongly worded letter to their 'client' (19th century language, 19th century attitude?) denying any fault whatsoever or reflect a little on the points made by the customer (21st century language, 21st century attitude?) and try to put them right in a way that meets the customers requirements.
It isn't difficult but the gnashing and wailing on here is truly laughable. Starting from the premise of "we never get it wrong" is the wrong starting point.
Ask yourself why we are at this point. Strip it back to root cause and it goes something like this. Small errors are made, serious mistakes are made, negligence and fraud occur, complaints are made and not dealt with very well, matters escalate, and eventually an Ombudsman scheme is created following other forms of complaint self-regualtion. The Ombudsman schemes are all customer protections schemes - David's protection against Goliath.
In the end the majority pay for the actions of a few. Twas ever thus.
Fellow peofessionals letting fellow professional down - suerly not? How very dare you!
As Cameron says "We're all in this together"!!!
Latest from the ombudsman
In today's Gazette, the ombudsman is complaining that he can't deal with complaints about poor service etc. from the unregulated legal sector. The great and the good really do need to get it into their heads, that all this opening up of professional work to all and sundry so that they can compete with the stuffy, overpriced regulated professionals, automatically means that the unscrupulous and incompetent will be able to prey on the public. It's an inevitable consequence of a free for all.
Yes, strange that isn't it?
Yes, strange that isn't it? Unregulated actually meaning, well, -unregulated.
Also a real shock that in a free and open market there are all qualities of services on offer-and it is entirely the consumers choice which he chooses and he has to decide if the quality he's told he is getting is actually whats delivered.
Possibly there should be exams and some sort of qualification? Oh, hang on...........!
OSS & The Law Soc
Stuart W, yes indeed you have a point about the previous complaints handling regime.
Can you remember the amount that was paid out to complainants to reflect the poor service delivered by the OSS and its bast*rd offspring? If the rumours were correct it was not far short of £1m per year.
The problem with the increase in the compensation limit is, as you say, is that it is fundamentally flawed in that it does not specify whether it is based on contract or tort; there is no opportunity to serve what is in effect a counter schedule of loss or dispute points raised.
I wholly accept that as a profession we should be compensating clients for poor service (I've been on the receiving end myself) the question is whether the system is proper, fair, equitable and just.
Most of us conclude that it is not.
Considering a complaint where the losses are £50k requires a proper consideration of law and evidence in a fair and open process.
The award of compensation for distress & etc is not something that is recognised in law (unless my memory is befuddled by a dose of man flu) but is awarded by the LeO, as the cap is lifted so the potential for this head of 'loss' to increase.
While I accept that in tort one takes one's 'victim' as one finds him, we have with the award of compensation for 'distress' to be maid where the actually failing is a gnats crotchet away from a counsel of perfection but as the client is an invertebrate they're soooo upset it's time for the old cheque book to deliver the healing power of money.
Then there's the idea of one free go and then you pay. I'm waiting for the complaint from a client (claimant) who was told that all the evidence pointed to them as being responsible for the RTC and consequently they can't have compensation. The client is a bully, who made unreasonable demands on the fee earner (daily updates, visiting the scene as if a police report and independent witnesses aren't enough) before finally making a formal complaint when we said 'no reasonable prospects'.
When (not if) they go to the LeO and the complaint is dismissed is it really right that we should pay for the next unpleasant client who complains to the LeO regardless as to whether their complaint has any merits or not?
Never met a solicitor yet,
Never met a solicitor yet, that would worry about the Ombudsman involvement, I personally think the Ombudsman is only there to give Joe Public false hope, that a legal wrong can be righted by their intervention, when they know it can only be righted by court proceedings. There again in stating this, once as was in our family court case and my Grandson had been adopted not even a former judge, Judge Cazalat could right the wrong and to be offered monetary compensation would just add insult to injury, to be honest the injustice has been easier to wish by the powers of the almighty that all that were involved suffer the fate of what goes around comes around within their family circle, through the media several notifications have come to our knowledge and divine intervention truly does happen