Website for blacklisted solicitors plans expansion

Thursday 28 January 2010 by James Dean

A website that blacklists solicitors and law firms is set to expand its capacity, with the number of visitors to the site now exceeding 1,000 a day, its owner claimed this week.

Rick Kordowski, who runs solicitorsfromhell.co.uk, told the Gazette that he plans to expand the site’s bandwidth after visitor numbers doubled in three months. He predicted that if the current trend continues, site traffic will double to 2,000 visitors a day by the end of April.

Solicitorsfromhell.co.uk allows visitors to post complaints about law firms and individual solicitors. The postings appear on Google within 24 hours.

Kordowski said that he set the website up because he was ‘shocked’ about the number of complaints made about solicitors. He maintained that he is carrying out a public service that is also of benefit to the ­profession.

Law firms can pay £299 to have all current and future traces of their name removed from the site. Alternatively, they can pay between £99 and £199 to have specific postings deleted. Visitors are charged a fee for posting a complaint about a firm.

Kordowski said that any income is spent on upkeep of the site. ‘I don’t have the time or the resources to look at the arguments from both sides, or monitor all postings for free,’ he said. ‘So I have devised a quick way for solicitors to end the matter and help me maintain the system.

‘The smarter firms and solicitors soon realise it’s cheaper to pay for administration and monitoring of [the] posting rather than pay for representation, High Court writs, bonds etcetera to have their listing taken down. Even the largest central London firms have realised that I am acting within the law and have ended the matter in this way.’

Kordowski said that he receives six new postings a day on average, half of which he deletes because they are unsuitable. ‘I also realise that the industry has “clients from hell,”’ he said.

He added: ‘I have no problem in exposing any firm that [has] brought pain and suffering to any unsuspecting clients and their families. I have had all sorts of threats from solicitors and barristers who are listed. Some must have spent thousands of pounds on representation.’

Comments

sounds like Danegeld to me

Sounds like Danegeld to me.

Chancers From Hell

I think Inspector Knacker of the Yard should pop round for a little chat with Mr Kordowski

"Admin and monitoring fees".

"Admin and monitoring fees". Not quite how I would describe them. And they say lawyers are parasites!

“clients from hell'

Maybe Mr. Kordowski could set up a website for solicitors and barristers that helps us avoid the clients we try to help, but for all our many hours of explanation, hard work and effort, still have unrealistic expectation, a stubborn view or just aren't willing to pay for the help they want. I'd pay for that....

Dead Right Sir!

The ones after a bargain are the ones to avoid avoid avoid. They want something for nothing and do not take their own transaction seriously enough to allow a proper job.

What Is Written Online Stays Written

There are lots of ways for unhappy customers to
write and say what they think.

The best bets are to

Give GREAT service
and create your own preponderance of positive proof.

The more positive proof you are great
means that people are more likely to
see and act on the good stuff.

Here are some ways you can do it.

Google local reviews (very important)
Testimonials written, audio, video on your
website and on social networking sites like YouTube
Awards, ratings, Lexcel, expert guides, information lines

The more proof i.e. independently said by others
you can get the better.

In the absence of this you get the negatives appearing
rather than the positives.

Not so!

Plenty of material disappears from the internet every day, irrevocably lost or never archived at all. Many websites do not allow Google to access their pages, and many others refuse the Wayback Machine (a very useful website, if you haven't come across it before: it archives websites at regular intervals for posterity).

Blacklisting or libel?

There is a flaw in Mr K's argument. While he refers to "pain and suffering to unsuspecting clients", he overlooks the possibility of a disgruntled litigation opponent - particularly a litigant in person - making an entry out of spite. There is no good reason why a firm targeted in this manner should have to pay for the removal of such an entry, particularly when it gives the lie to his use of the word "blacklisting" as is generally understood. Would he like to receive a libel claim or two rather than take the common sense approach of moderating his entries and allowing a prior right of reply?

What a joke! No doubt there

What a joke! No doubt there are people who have genuinely bad experiences with solicitors, but any Tom, Dick or Harry could go on this website and spout any old nonsense because they did not get the outcome they wanted (no fault of the legal team).

And to charge firms to have any content in relation to their firm removed smacks of holding people to ransom.

Missing the Point

All the comments here in outcry show how many people are missing the point. The SRA is a waste of time, the page referred to above only notes cases where action has been taken. It does not make any reference to instances of atrocious service, lack of professionalism, and general apathy on the part of the SRA to take action to root out the rubbish and the wrong-doers. Because they do not act, I think a lot of Solicitors take the view that x in getting away with it so why shouldn't we. So the situation is exacerbated.

In case the profession has not noticed people have no faith in Solicitors. Self regulation does not work, one reason probably being because if it were done diligently and properly the amount of wrong doing it would uncover would be so vast it would damage people's faith even more. But sweeping a problem under the carpet hardly improves things. Hence this website is providing a service.

With over a quarter of a century as a conveyancer I have during that time seen a massive drop in standards. I also think the regulation of Solicitors over that period has reduced. Because I am not a Solicitor the contemptuous attitude towards people like myself is why should I care? And why should anyone listen to me as I am not qualified? That hardly helps, my standards are way above what I have seen on a day to day basis from the majority of qualified people I have to deal with. A qualification as a Solicitor does not an honest person of integrity make. I could quote many examples from persons for whom I have worked. In my humble opinion, the public should have a right to know that those people are not fit and proper persons of professionalism and honesty to represent them. Sorry if that puts me in a minority, but maybe not being a Solicitor, I do not have my own self interests to protect, and I can look at this issue rationally.

Rick Kordowski is after publicity that is all..

Unless that is not his real name, would you feel safe doing such a thing. It's a stunt.

the evidence shows otherwise....

" In case the profession has not noticed people have no faith in Solicitors."
I suggest this is incorrect. Have a look at the details of the two consumer surveys listed below.

http://www.legalservicesboard.org.uk/news_publications/press_releases/20...

and

http://www.comres.co.uk/page16520599.aspx

ah, now we know why Rick

ah, now we know why Rick Kordowski started this website:

http://www.solicitorsfromhell.co.uk/mossandcoleman/index.php?option=com_...

SolicitorsfromHell

He does not do him self or his potential 'clients' a service with a foul-mouthed rant.

If his solicitors were negligent and cost him £700K plus he could and should have sued them.

I do not know how much credibility his story has. His disclosures do not come across as calm and measured. I am sure he will say that is typical of the profession (Iam and ex-solicitor) but I felt sorry for the firm concerned after reading his stuff.

I feel sorry for some the

I feel sorry for some the 'named and shamed' firms, most of the 'complaints' are incoherent rants and the root of the 'complaint' was hard to decipher. Allegations fly of certain solicitors being 'useless' but with no proper reason given.

Gutter Journalism

Would the Gazette please explain why they felt this website worthy of front page exposure?

Just a complete money making

Just a complete money making scam, I hope that all firms will ignore this so that Rick does not make any more out of this. Pot kettle, black springs to mind here.

He is right when he says that there are also clients from hell who are so beyond reason that they will charge their credit cards to post extreme baseless opinions rather than attempt to resolve things via a professional body and complaints procedure.

I hear Dickinson Dees paid

I hear Dickinson Dees paid the £299 last week to get two of their errant lawyers off the site!

Funny that…

Isn’t it funny that people that want to have a ‘go’ don’t leave their real (full) name. Neither here nor the strange emails I received today!

I’m not out to chastise any particular firm (apart from Moss and Colemen Solicitors, obviously). Firms do that to themselves. Some of the postings I receive are yes, shocking, ambiguous and use layman terms. It’s the only way to get heard these days.

So, if your firm is listed, or you are concerned that you may be. Pick up the phone and sort it with your client. Do the right thing!

Project in the pipeline:
Website for whitelisted solicitors (SolicitorsFromHeaven.com).
Then again, I might be wasting my time.
What do you think?

Not funny at all

(We post 'anonymous' as we may not have the support of the Firm we are employed by.)

The website is small fry, and it may be run by someone who may have been a client 'from hell' himself and who has certianly penalised his whole offending firm (and every single employee in it).

Slick move! Not.

Why the Gazette ran this story

You asked why the Gazette ran a story about this website on our front page.

We did this because it is of real interest to solicitors to know that this website exists. Indeed the level of interest can be seen from the number of comments it has received, and the debate it has sparked.

Rachel Rothwell,
News editor, Gazette.

Solicitors from hell website

This website is a good idea, wish I had thought of it. However I am not familiar with libel laws but if a 'client' posts a report about their solicitor which is untrue. Why has the website owner not been sued? If they have been what was ordered by the court? I dont understand why a solicitor is not given the right to reply under the postings so that a fair hearing is given? If a solicitor can pay a fee to the website to take the posting down, then how is this a service to the community ifthe realy bad solicitors continue to practice? or is this websiite just about getting money?

What the HELL are you talking about?

Dickinson Dees have NEVER been listed at SolicitorsFromHell.co.uk

Well done Rick...not really!

As someone who's been building websites for law firms for over six years, I've followed the fortunes of Mr. K for years, ever since it was his personal crusade against Moss & Coleman.

Occasionally I get a non-client phone me as Mr. K's site shows up better than their site in the Google rankings for their name. Some basic SEO soon puts paid to that.

My advice to clients is to ignore the site. Sure, everyone has a client who is a PITA from time to time, I have one at the moment, and VERY occasionally we all have situations where we could have done things better and a client might have a legitimate complaint.

The interesting thing about the Gazette story is that this is the first time, to my knowledge, that Mr. K. has openly said that if a law firm pays him money then he will remove their name from his site (historic and all future references).

So how does that sit with his consumer "clients" who he charges a fee to post a complaint on his website? He’s taking money from consumers AND taking money from solicitors. Is that having his cake & eating it?

One assumes that he takes the consumer’s money, finds they have submitted a complaint against a firm who have “paid him off” and then refunds the money.

Rick, as you are active on this thread today, perhaps you’d like to respond?

Regs….David.

Conscious Solutions

web site scams

Having had a look at the article that Mr Kordowski cites in his defence, i.e.Metropolitan International Schools Ltd v Designtechnica Corporation and Others -

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/law/reports/article673654...

and the fact that a search engine is not a publisher, surely this misses the point that Mr Kordowski's website is not a search engine as Google is, but a website. As such, I would suggest that laws on libel may apply to his venture to the same degree they will apply to any other site.

Re other comments questioning Mr Kordowski's motives, I expect he is saving up for counsel's fees in an action for libel from any or all of those mentioned.

Respect!

To David G, a fellow webmaster I presume.

The service at SolicitorsFromHell.co.uk is totally FREE to disgruntled clients.

In fact, it has been reported that a threat of a listing gets firms 'moving'.

Lets see what the national complaint stats stack up to, this time next year.

The article states "Visitors

The article states "Visitors are charged a fee for posting a complaint about a firm." Is that not true then?

Missing

The service at SolicitorsFromHell.co.uk is totally FREE to disgruntled clients.

I guess the word ‘not’ is missing.

Point of the website?

If RK started this website so that other consumers would become aware of the law firms which are not doing their jobs correctly, then the best action would be to let the consumers write on it, then allow the law firms to reply?

Allowing law firms to pay a fee to take off all the current complaints against them on the website, and any possible future complaints seems just a moneymaking scheme. Afterall, who does this benefit other than the law firm which has been discredited, and RK who pockets the money? It surely cannot benefit future visitors who may be considering to instruct a law firm that previously had many complaints against them on the website.

As such, of course RK would want to expand his website, the more people who makes complaints on there against a particular law firm, the more incentive for the law firm to pay him and not go through court due to massive costs and efforts involved, and the more money goes into RK's bank account.

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