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From the calls that I get and quote a price for legal assistance, the parents who desperately need skilled assistance for the sake of the children are still very much there, but now, the message that they cannot afford any help has got through. I say, do you realise there is no legal aid any more, they say how much would it cost, I say - £250 to open a file, between £1,000 to £6,000 to go through court. After they start breathing again, I tell the they can do it themselves and they go quiet and give up. The above comments are obviously made by people who have not been on the sharp end of the acute and chronic pain in all this.

The state removes children permanently in care proceedings with all that grief and anguish, now (mainly mothers) can just refuse to cooperate and there you go... a father has his children removed permanently, to the child's detriment and there is nothing he can do... tragic