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Or, Stuart, people who had had a successful career over several decades and had an idea how the world works and could give the country the benefit of their experience.

And, Anon 1.22 I already clear up some of the mess people leave on Llandudno promenade and foreshore and the Great Orme so come along over here and give me a hand if you like, or just look out for me if you don't like getting your hands dirty....

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